Ep. 550 — Susan Rice

The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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4.6 • 7.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2023

⏱️ 61 minutes

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After a decades-long career in public service spanning three presidential administrations, Susan Rice left her post as President Biden’s domestic policy advisor in May 2023. Rice joined David to talk about the differences between working on domestic policy and national security, Biden taking office in the throes of the Covid-19 pandemic, the importance of mental health care, the challenges of immigration policy, gun violence's impacts on generations of young people, the stakes of the war in Ukraine, and the threat of Russia’s Vladimir Putin.

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0:00.0	And now from the Institute of Politics at the University of Chicago and CNN audio, the
0:11.5	Axwiles, with your host, David Axelrod.
0:16.1	I last spoke with Susan Rice on this podcast six years ago when she published her memoir
0:20.8	about her extraordinary life and career and service, including her Stint as UN Ambassador
0:26.1	and as National Security Advisor to President Barack Obama.
0:30.5	But then she returned to public life in 2021 in an entirely new role.
0:34.9	As President Biden's domestic policy advisor during his very eventful first years in office,
0:40.2	when we sat down this week I was curious about that big transition, and the observation
0:44.6	she gleaned and working with Biden on some of his greatest domestic priorities.
0:49.0	Here's that conversation.
0:56.0	Susan Rice, my old friend, it's great to see you.
0:59.6	It's really good to see you, David.
1:00.7	It's been too long.
1:01.7	You've got the glow of a person who's been at a government for a few months.
1:06.1	I can always recognize it.
1:08.7	You don't have that sort of haggard sleepless look that I come to associate with my friends
1:15.9	in the White House.
1:16.9	I've had a nice summer.
1:18.3	That's great.
1:19.7	So let me ask you because it was interesting to me.
1:23.7	I mean, my whole exposure to you was because of your foreign policy expertise, and all
1:33.2	of your history and government was in that, and then you decided to take this job.
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