that line from the lion the witch and the wardrobe when he's not safe it doesn't mean that we're

not safe with him and that our stories and our brokenness isn't safe with him it means that you

can't be around him and not be changed like your heart is going to be transformed because you

can't help when you come completely through the door,

like a broken mess with nothing to offer.

And you encounter love and generosity and empathy and kindness and mercy and grace that is available to us in the presence of God, you don't walk away the same.

Yeah.

You're listening to God Hears Her, a podcast for women, where we explore the stunning truth that God hears you.

He sees you, and he loves you because you

are his. Find out how these realities free you today on God Hears Her. Welcome to God Hears Her.

I'm Erin Eddy. And I'm Elisa Morgan. How many times do we feel ragged and burned out, broken,

and basically just a hot mess.

And yet we believe we need to suck it up and show up in front of God with a smile plastered on our faces. Or in front of our church, too. Like everything is just hunky-dory.

Well, our next guest, Ellie Holcomb, has a conversation with us today about taking on

grit, grounding ourselves in God's truth, and showing up as we are, hot mess and all. It's a freeing

conversation for all of us. Yes, I love that. But first, a bit of a background about Ellie Holcomb.

She's a Nashville native and grew up in the music industry.

She began her musical career by touring the country with her husband Drew Holcomb.

But after the birth of their first child, Ellie stepped away from touring.

From that space came her debut album, as sure as the Sun. And she was awarded

Best New Artist at the 2014 Dev Awards. She has released multiple albums since then and also

a best-selling book. But let's get this true grit conversation going with Ellie. This is, God hears her.

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