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The Paula Faris 'Faith & Calling' Podcast

Ep 54 - Max Lucado: A Converted Drunk, A Health Scare and A Bold Promise

The Paula Faris 'Faith & Calling' Podcast

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Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Talk Radio

4.4697 Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2022

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

This week on “Faith & Calling” Paula is talking to one of the kindest, wisest and most influential teachers out there, Max Lucado – who happens to be a best-selling author of over 40 books that have sold more than 120 million copies worldwide! Max is often referred to as “America’s Pastor” (a title he very quickly shrugs off)... and after listening to this week’s thought-provoking and hope-renewing conversation, it’s clear to see how the nickname stuck. Paula and Max’s friendship goes way back to when Paula was at ABC. The last time they spoke, Max had just received a life-threatening diagnosis that rocked his faith with the weight of the unknown. Max catches Paula up on the amazing turn of events and how “the peace that surpasses all understanding” showed up in the midst of his mess. If you’ve grown discouraged in navigating a painful diagnosis of your own or simply the unknown that lies before you, you’re going to want to listen in to hear the bold declaration prayed over Max that led to his miraculous update. Paula also asks Max to retrace his steps from the very beginning of both his faith journey and his calling to be a writer. Hear how he made the dramatic shift from drinking a 6-pack nearly every night to finding himself in the front row of his college’s Bible class to writing a feature in his church’s weekly bulletin – a part-time hustle would turn out to be a full-on calling. Max’s latest book is a rerelease of one of his all-time bestsellers, “3:16 - The Numbers of Hope.” Paula asks Max to break down what led him to revise and update this book based on the Bible’s most famous verse for a new generation of readers. Spoiler: He likens it to dropping a chlorine tablet in the pool of our society (Ok. How good is that analogy? And how needed is that tablet!). Paula and Max squeeze in time to talk about the big questions throughout this episode. What’s the purpose of it? Why is life so hard? Why do bad things happen to good people? It’s an impossible task to take on the hardest of questions while softening the hardest of hearts, but Pastor Max, with his abiding hope in the Christian faith and God’s Word, shies away from neither. As Max puts it, our hardships can make us bitter or better. If you’re looking for the path towards better, then let this episode mark the spot. ONLINE bible study absolutely free… starts on March 27, ends on Easter Now with brand-new content added, one of Max’s all-time bestselling books is updated for a new generation! Follow Max on Instagram Check out Max’s latest release, "3:16: The Numbers of Hope" Uncover all the meaning and promise behind the most famous verse of the Bible by signing up for Max’s online Bible study - starting March 21 Connect with Paula & share what you are feeling called to in this season of your life: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook  Learn more about Paula’s new company CARRY Media™ and sign up for CARRY™ ALL, a weekly newsletter that just launched! Follow along on social media: @carry_media Sign up for Paula’s new and improved newsletter to get a message from her every two weeks. Order Paula’s Book - “Called Out: Why I Traded Two Dream Jobs for a Life of True Calling” Subscribe & Listen to more episodes of the Podcast: Access More | Spotify | Apple 

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0:00.0

Access more.

0:03.7

Hi friends, it's Paula Ferris.

0:05.8

You might remember me from Good Morning America or The View.

0:09.5

It's okay if you don't, but I have a new view now.

0:12.5

My husband and I moved to South Carolina with our three kids, and I'm exploring new seasons of calling.

0:19.1

Each week I'm joined by friends to have real,

0:22.1

honest conversations about their stories, their struggles and triumphs, all to encourage and empower

0:28.2

you. We're going to be talking about what people are called to do and who they're called to

0:32.5

be. I welcome you in to the Paula Ferris Faith and Calling podcast.

0:42.6

Hi friends, and thank you so much for joining the conversation this week.

0:47.6

I've got to be honest, I'm a little overwhelmed with the response to last week's episode with my husband and my 82-year-old mom, who just stole the show when she played her ukulele to close us out.

1:00.4

I'm so proud of her. She had to relearn just about everything after her stroke, which was nine

1:06.5

months ago, including how to play her beloved ukulele. And this week, I just want to say,

1:13.8

buckle up because I'm talking to a man that Reader's Digest has dubbed the Best Preacher in

1:20.2

America. Christianity Today has also heaped praise on him, naming him America's pastor. So

1:26.2

naturally, he's always had it together, right?

1:29.1

I'm a converted drunk. I was when I was in college. I often used the phrase six-pack-a-night

1:36.1

guy. I don't know if it was every night, but it was a lot of nights. I was not respectful

1:41.5

toward women at all. I would not want any of my three daughters to go out

1:46.6

with the college-age version of Max Locato. I was a fighter. I liked to pick fights. I hung out

1:54.3

at bars quite a bit, and I was a heavy smoker. Max Likato, who has authored over 40 books and pastors a church in Texas, opens up about his

2:05.7

conversion, how he was called to writing, and his recent health scare was a life-altering

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