Ep 53 - Zach Hoag ”The Light is Winning”
The Deconstructionists
John Williamson
4.4 • 823 Ratings
🗓️ 7 September 2017
⏱️ 84 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | In a time like this, the revealing is meant to sort of precede and make a way for one thing to come to an end so that something new can begin. |
| 0:13.9 | And I really do think that we are in such a time and it is not the end of the world but it's the end of something and it's it's necessary |
| 0:24.2 | for us perhaps to to not resist that ending to not lament it even even though certainly there's |
| 0:31.3 | there's a painful element to it for the church, for church institutions, for church leadership. |
| 0:41.2 | There's a suffering involved, but it's a necessary suffering. We need to lean into that suffering. |
| 0:47.2 | Something new is wanting to emerge, to break in, and we've got to make way for that to happen. |
| 0:58.0 | Wish me a wonder, wish me to sleep. |
| 1:06.0 | You don't have to wander, hear when I speak, there is nothing I've got when I die that I keep. |
| 1:15.1 | It's amazing. |
| 1:20.4 | Welcome to the Deconstructionist podcast, everybody. |
| 1:25.0 | What are we got today, John? |
| 1:26.2 | Oh, man. |
| 1:27.3 | Zach? Hoag. Zach Freaking Hoag. This guy's awesome, |
| 1:30.4 | man. I think you and I both started reading his book, The Light is winning. And actually, |
| 1:34.3 | this is one of those rare occasions where, like, we get books that are sent to us randomly. |
| 1:39.3 | Like, I'll come home, and it's like Christmas every day. Every day for nerd Christmas. |
| 1:44.1 | Yeah, publisher's sent his books, which is awesome. |
| 1:46.1 | So awesome. |
| 1:47.0 | And like, this is one of those occasions where we found it, kind of sat on the bookshelf for a while. I think you cracked it first, and I got a text from me, and you're like, dude, this book is amazing. This book is fantastic. And it's like we started looking into it, started following Zach on social media. |
| 1:44.8 | And we were like, this dude's speak in our language, man. |
| 1:47.0 | He is a lot. book is fantastic. And it's like we started looking into it, started following Zach on social media. |
| 2:02.5 | And we were like, this dude's speaking our language, man. He is a lot of fun to follow on social |
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