They're bad, their boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

Don't.

So we do bad as our next guest, we've spoken about a few times.

It actually is, it popped up in numerous conversations at running shows have been or

speaking at running shows.

And he's always seemed like someone who I thought, wow, this is so fun.

And then when you hear the story, like, that's incredible.

So our next guest was an 800-meter runner for the UK, got disillusioned,

decided to be a rock and roll star instead, went on tour in a couple of bands

and now does a lot of reviews where he'll listen to an entire album as he runs and scream his

views about them through the camera. It's really, really fun. We met each other briefly at Love Trails

because we were kind of back- back, um, talking, engagements.

But then I completely forgot to message, which is really annoying. So welcome to the podcast, the wonderful

Jerry Watkins, well, no relation. Yay! Yay! Yes!

How you doing? I'm very good, thank you. Yeah, how are you doing?

Good, mate.

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