You are listening to the Gritty Podcast where we talk about all things gritty. Life is not

easy. It never was and it never will be. A good life takes grit. Prioritize who you are

and who you want to be because life isn't fair and a little grit can make all the difference.

Welcome to the Gritty Podcast. I am your host, Brian Collin. I am joined by my brother,

the Gritty Broman. How are you, Brent? I'm well. Thank you.

Brent's been a little quiet the last couple podcasts, intros we've done. It's mostly just

me talking. Well, it's because Brian has kept me locked inside of a basement editing for

the last couple of weeks. True. I'm just now seeing the sunlight and the burns by

eyes. Well, by the time this podcast goes out, we'll have launched two videos from the

Mule Deer series that I did with Ryan Lampers. On this hunt, on that Mule Deer series

hunt, I actually, we actually consume quite a bit of Heather's Choice Meals, who is the

featured guest today. Only this time we had Ryan interviewer. Ryan Lampers do the interview

with Heather. He was supposed to, but she kind of hijacked it and they kind of interviewed

each other. You know, Ryan isn't the most intrusive, like assertive interviewer. And so,

you know, Heather probably had to carry the show. I haven't, I didn't really listen to it.

You see, there's a swing. He starts asking her some questions and then she comes back and

answers. She took over the last half of the podcast. Someone has to with Ryan there. It's hard.

I did a podcast years ago with Russ Meyer. He's still one of my favorite shows. And Russ is just

like he has killed everything that alive, you know, just giant animals. And so, I'm having this

podcast with Russ and then he's an introvert big time. And so it was kind of tough to get him to

do it. And he was pretty nervous going into it. And then as we're doing the podcast, Russ is

a sort of person where, you know, he kills everything under the moon, but then you go and you ask

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