Hello, do bad out and welcome to bad boy running.

I've just finished up our interview with Brian, who I've been on tour with for the most part of this year.

Really, really interesting conversation.

He started trail runner.

He knows more about trial running than pretty much anyone else on earth.

And during this episode, we go into not only him being caught in the middle of a bit of a battle between Gary Robbins and UTMB and over the most recent race, we're talking about the future of trail running, but also how trail has changed, how the media around trail has changed and how the art of story telling

and trail running has changed over that time. Really cool episodes. You're going to love it.

You're going to find out so much about trail history. So strap in. Hope you enjoy.

They're bad. They're boys. and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

So do bad is our next guest I met for the first time in.

Actually, I can't even remember where it was.

Was it Switzerland?

Somewhere like that.

Maybe Italy.

And he was introduced to me as like that maybe italy and um he was introduced

me as like you know who that is that is like trail running royalty set up trail running magazine

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