What's up everybody. This is Scott Yeager here with another edition of Challenge Mania.

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like my guest here today, who needs no introduction, but I'm going to give him one. If you

didn't come from me, he came for Dee. Derek's not here, but I've got somebody who fills in for

D quite frequently on the road. He is literally the godfather of reality

television, 6'3, 226, 230 of twisted steel coming in hot and ferocious. The godfather

Mark Gron. What's up, buddy? Crowd goes wild. Can you hear the mob outside the studio right now?

They're trying to, they're crawling,

trying to get in. Great to see you, buddy. We got some great stuff to talk about. Lots of stuff been going on. I'm great to be here, brother. So we are in Chicago, as we often are. We come here

now about twice a year. Yeah. And we often schedule these around things we want to go to.

This weekend, no different.

We are here because tomorrow there's the W.W.

Elimination Chamber that we're going to check out on the road to WrestleMania.

Now, I think you have become as synonymous with pro wrestling as anyone in the reality world, which is awesome, which is, you know, obviously there's a lot of people whose paths have crossed or started in reality went to wrestling, vice versa. Um, but, you know, it's interesting now because you wrestle for Boca Raton championship wrestling, you've made a WrestleMania appearance or two. I feel like you're a mainstay, uh, they're on the sidelines as well. I mean, how does it feel now to kind of, because, because Craig, we've wrong, this isn't something that you were necessarily as associated with for your first 25 years of reality TV. Well, look, I don't want to give my age. I'll just say I'm seasoned now. I'm older, right? So, but I mean, look, I grew up watching wrestling.

You know, I was the guy jumping off the couch with my brother, with the pillows,

and reenacting everything I saw.

And what I noticed when I went back to one of the most recent ones,

I think it was at the WrestleMania in Dallas,

is when I first realized it is the fan base of WWE mirrors the fan base of the challenge.

Very, very, it's almost 100%.

So I feel like I got like, like, Mark, Godfather, I got screamed at the WrestleMania event,

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