Ep. 515 — Dr. Anthony Fauci

The Axe Files with David Axelrod

CNN

News

4.6 • 7.7K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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After 54 years at the National Institutes of Health (NIH), Dr. Anthony Fauci will step down from his role at the end of 2022. While he has worked on a spectrum of infectious diseases, including HIV/AIDS, he rose to national prominence recently for his work on the Covid-19 pandemic. Considered at times to be a hero to the left and a villain to the right, Dr. Fauci talked to David about his career at NIH, what he sees as social media’s deleterious impact on science, fighting conspiracy theories, threats against his family, the discomfort of contradicting the president of the United States, and the state of Covid-19 today. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN audio, the Axe Files,
0:12.6	with your host David Axelrod.
0:19.0	Dr. Anthony Fauci will step down this month as Director of the National Institute of
0:23.2	Allergy and Infectious Diseases, winding up a half century of leadership and discovery.
0:29.2	He's been here with me before in 2020, but I wanted to get together again to look back
0:33.5	at his extraordinary career.
0:35.5	The lives he saved and unanticipated controversy he confronted and trying to lead the country
0:40.6	through the deadliest pandemic in a century.
0:43.9	But before sharing that conversation, I also want to wish you all a very happy holiday season
0:48.2	and new year.
0:49.4	This will be our last new episode for 2022, but I look forward to getting together again
0:54.4	on the other side for more conversations on the Axe Files.
0:58.2	Now here's Dr. Fauci.
1:06.6	Dr. Fauci, great to see you again, as always, we've known each other for a long time,
1:12.0	but this seems like a momentous time to chat as you wrap up your 54-year career at the
1:20.0	NIH.
1:21.0	How you feeling?
1:22.0	What are you thinking?
1:23.0	Well, I'm feeling, in some respects, good looking forward to even though I'm stepping down from
1:30.7	federal service, David, I'm not actually retiring in the classic sense, and I'm looking forward
1:37.1	to some of the things I could do out of the venue of the federal government.
1:41.8	But it's a very emotional feeling when you've been coming on to this campus every day,
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