Hey, dude, badders. Welcome to Bad Boy Running. We've just, I've just recorded, um, with Steve,

really, really good episode. We, in this episode, the things I, I think you really enjoy.

Firstly, is how do you manage age stations when monkeys, seven miles of monkeys who are trained

in how to eat energy gels.

They pick up bags, they take food.

So that was an element I wasn't expecting.

We also talked about the impact of the huge tragedy in China,

where 20 runners, trail runners died and the impact that's had on the community,

but also we go into China lockdown for COVID far longer than the US, than the UK,

than Europe.

And so the impact that that had on the local Hong Kong race scene where there are, you know,

hundreds of trail races and how those

races have approached it. But we also talk about the Ultra Trail World Tour, UTMB and the

Ultra Trail majors, kind of how the scene has changed over those years, what some of the issues

have been, what some of the challenges have been, what some of the challenges have been

and what the intent of the Otter Trail majors is and how that's going to look.

It's really fascinating.

We talk about Gary Robbins.

We talk about, you know, ostrichael from Mount Fuji and go into quite a lot of the, I guess, I just guess what it's like to be, a race director

in a very global community where it's changing quickly, the pressures and how to keep

that cultural identity.

So enjoy.

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