Ep. 513 — Mike Pence

The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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4.6 • 7.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2022

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Former Vice President Mike Pence has centered his career around his Christian faith and conservative beliefs. Most recently, he spent four years serving alongside former President Donald Trump, who has been criticized for his brash and confrontational demeanor. While the two have different political styles, Pence remained steadfastly loyal to Trump until January 6, 2021, when Pence refused to reject the results of the 2020 election. Pence spoke to David about the role of his faith in his political career, why election denial was not a winning strategy in the 2022 midterms, public safety and the Second Amendment, his role at the Capitol on January 6, and his views on 2024.

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0:00.0	And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN Audio, the Axe Files, with
0:12.6	your host, David Axelrod.
0:19.0	Mike Pence was always something of his finks to me, a relentlessly loyal understudy to
0:23.9	a president who was as tumultuous and profane as Pence's reserved and pious, maybe as
0:29.9	odd a couple as we've ever seen in politics.
0:32.8	But Pence, who just published his memoir called So Help Me God, came to the Institute of
0:37.6	Politics this week and sat down to chat with me before an audience of 800 students from
0:43.0	the book and from our conversation.
0:45.2	I got a much deeper and more textured sense of the man who will forever be remembered for
0:50.3	what he did and what he wouldn't do on that fateful January 6th in the U.S. Capitol.
0:56.3	Here's that conversation.
0:57.3	Mr. Vice President, welcome.
1:13.7	So good to have you here.
1:15.3	Thank you, David.
1:16.3	It's an honor to be here.
1:17.3	Really is.
1:18.3	I'll ask until I read your book, Mr. Vice President, that this is sort of a homecoming for
1:23.3	you.
1:24.3	Your folks were raised like miles from here on the south side of Chicago.
1:29.3	Well, they were.
1:30.3	Well, first David, I want to thank you.
1:32.3	I want to thank the Institute of Politics.
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