You are listening to the Gritty Podcast where we talk about all things gritty. Life is not

easy. It never was and it never will be. A good life takes grit. Prioritize who you are

and who you want to be because life isn't fair. And a little grit can make all the difference.

Welcome to the Gritty Podcast. I am your host, Brian Call, and I am joined by my brother,

the Gritty Broman. Bren, how are you? I'm well. Thank you.

Bren just got back from his first independent elk hunt. This is the first time where I got

to be the guy that pulled the trigger. Is that what you're saying?

Bren has been a very effective pack mule from the age of 14, 12, 14. When we went on that,

Bren has been on a number of hunts with me and all he's done is pack.

I was listening to the shots. You didn't get to see the shots. I didn't see the

alive elk. I was thinking about this today. I think I was on my fifth elk before I saw

a live elk. Yeah, I think what people don't are listening don't realize is that I am

like the age of a father figure for you. There is 15 years between you and I and there

are 16 years between you and dad. Think about that. Exactly. Technically, it's tight.

But yeah, there's a whole age difference generation. By the time I went on a mission, when I

was 19 to 10, you were four. You were my little brother. It was a first little brother

I had, so that was cool. I have memories of us going out fishing and stuff like that

and doing some manly-asked things. I had three or four and a drag year round with

me with my teenage buddies. But you were married by the time I was eight. I have had to

zan in my life since I was eight years old. When I got back from my mission, you were

six and you were diagnosed with leukemia within a month or two of me being home. Then

I remember for about a year, I was taking you to all your chemo appointments. Fun times

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