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Today I'm here with Professor Mark Blumberg, who's a distinguished professor of psychology and the chair of the

Department of Psychological and Brain Sciences at the University of Iowa.

Now, of course, we were just saying this is a very strange time for the chair of a department of a department of psychology, given how stressful times are. of everything has kind of come to a screeching halt.

But we're going to talk about your work,

thinking about how babies grow and what's going on with them

while they sleep.

And so I would love to hear about your research and how you came to understand or what we do understand

about what's going on inside of that sleeping baby.

Yeah, it's a wonderful topic to study, very pleasurable for me.

I've been doing it now for over 20 years, having studied other sorts of things in development before that.

But it may surprise you, it may surprise your listeners to know that even though we've known

for millennia just by observing that we

sleep most when we're young is remarkably little research comparatively going on in baby sleep in any kind of infant sleep.

So we know the nuts and bolts wise we know relatively little about what's going on, you

know, in the infant body in the infant brain during sleep.

We've learned, most of what we've learned,

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