EP 5: Can people really change?
Bill Gates and Rashida Jones Ask Big Questions
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4.2 • 4K Ratings
🗓️ 14 December 2020
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
2020 has been a year of change. From the pandemic to the presidential election, it’s clear that the world will never be the same after this year – and neither will all of us who experienced it. In the season finale, Bill and Rashida explore how progress hinges on society’s ability to evolve, how our view of the world shifts as we get older, and whether it’s actually possible to change someone’s mind. Then they’re joined by two people who are using their positions as artists to change the world for the better: Bono and Kerry Washington.
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| 0:00.0 | Today's episode contains some salty language courtesy of Bano, which is fine for me, but may not be suitable for all listeners. |
| 0:10.0 | Hi, I'm Rashida Jones. |
| 0:12.0 | Hi, I'm Bill Gates. |
| 0:14.0 | And we're here to ask the big questions. |
| 0:16.0 | Can we just talk? Can we just talk? |
| 0:22.0 | Today the big question is, can people really change? |
| 0:26.0 | Can Trump supporters learn to accept and maybe even respect President Joe Biden? |
| 0:31.0 | Will this pandemic ever unify us as opposed to dividing us? |
| 0:36.0 | So talking about personal change and making change in the world and how those two things are connected. |
| 0:43.0 | In terms of the work that you do and how you've tried to precipitate change, |
| 0:48.0 | do you feel like there were things when you were young that were extremely important to you |
| 0:55.0 | and that you prioritized that have changed? |
| 0:58.0 | Yeah, I'd say that I'm more interested in other people. |
| 1:06.0 | I was quite self-centered when I was young. |
| 1:09.0 | In am I talented? What can I do with my talent? |
| 1:13.0 | I think you all do that. |
| 1:15.0 | You know, computers, but I was an extreme case. |
| 1:17.0 | Okay, I believe you. |
| 1:19.0 | Can I write the best software? What can we do with personal computing? |
| 1:23.0 | I definitely think age for me has made me think about other people way more than I was able to when I was young. |
| 1:34.0 | Okay, so what would 18-year-old Bill see about Bill today that would surprise him? |
| 1:40.0 | You know, I'd say this guy is lazy. |
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