Ep. 5: Art and the Artist
The Re-Education with Eli Lake
Nebulous Media
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 5 May 2022
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
Terrible artists can be great people. And terrible people can be great artists. Modern-day pressure campaigns to cancel stars for their abhorrent behavior fail to separate the art from the artist—and pose a threat to our culture. On this episode of The Re-Education, Eli Lake considers what we stand to lose when we boycott disgraced geniuses.
Times
- 00:03 - Segment: Introduction
- 00:20 - Segment: Monologue
- 15:05 - Segment: Interview with author and art historian Victoria Coates
Link
Victoria’s book, David’s Sling: A History of Democracy in Ten Works of Art
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | This is the re-education with Eli Lake. |
| 0:05.0 | Today's show is about the art and the artist, and later on we will have an interview with author and art historian, Victoria Coates. |
| 0:19.0 | The saxophone you are hearing in the background is the unmistakable sound of Kenny G, a sound that is unmistakably terrible. |
| 0:29.0 | The musical equivalent of artificial maple syrup. |
| 0:32.6 | Sweet, sticky, empty calories. |
| 0:36.5 | This is the audio backdrop today of shopping malls, dentist offices, |
| 0:41.7 | and corporate guest apartment lobbies. In China, the authorities play this song to signal the |
| 0:47.9 | end of a dreary workday. The fact that for the last 40 years, this DREC has been categorized by streaming services, |
| 0:56.5 | radio stations, and his record label, as smooth jazz is an affront to both jazz and smoothness. |
| 1:05.4 | Wouldn't it be nice if the man who has committed these crimes against a great American art form |
| 1:10.5 | was also a reprobate. |
| 1:13.5 | Sadly, this is just not the case. |
| 1:16.3 | As a 2021 HBO documentary from Penny Lane demonstrates, |
| 1:21.0 | the musician born Ken Gorellick is a devoted father. |
| 1:24.8 | He worked hard to earn his fortune and invested wisely. |
| 1:28.4 | He was an early investor in Starbucks. |
| 1:31.1 | He's a scratch golfer, |
| 1:33.0 | and he treats his many fans with respect and dignity. |
| 1:37.2 | Kenny G. is a good man. |
| 1:39.8 | There's anything wrong with hard work? |
| 1:42.0 | That's a hard lick. |
| 1:42.7 | I just played it really well. |
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