What's up everybody? This is the Betray, the addicted, and the expert. My name is Brannon and I am the expert.

And I'm Ashland and I was the Bet. And I'm Kobe, the recovering addict.

What you're going to get is three unique perspectives on recovery and tools for hope and healing.

Hello, we are excited because today we have Clay from Fight the New Drug and he's kind of a big deal.

He's changing the world.

No, no, no.

He's really the...

If they call me the legend, then I don't know what they call him.

Because he is the man.

The world changer.er. Right, so we're going to go ahead and get started with a little review from the

podcast.

We had so many of you leave a review last week and we really appreciate that. And this one says the

podcast provides a deep understanding in what it means to be a sex addict. Empathy

is felt and taught. The expert seems to know exactly what I've been through, which that makes me happy because both sides are feeling that.

Yes, absolutely. This isn't just for the betrayed. It's not just for the addict. It's for both. So awesome. All right. All right.

So Clay, we wanted you to introduce yourself to our listeners who maybe haven't heard a

new drug. OK.

Well, I'll do the short version, I guess.

Which is probably more desirable.

So back in high school, I have a cousin that struggled with pornography that was pretty severe.

In fact, very severe. He had an addiction. He acted out because he needed more and more

hardcore version he acted out in ways that were inappropriate and illegal and

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