The Tom Woods Show, episode 472.

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$10 gift card. Hey everybody, Tom Woods here. Talk today about energy and in particular about wind

and solar power. This is back of the news because of Bernie Sanders,

who thinks we need to spend more money on developing wind and solar power, and we should tax

carbon emissions and so on and so forth. So we're going to hash that out. We've talked about that,

I don't know, probably like 187 episodes ago. That's not an exaggeration. It probably was about 187 episodes ago.

But I want to talk to Rob Bradley. We've never spoken to him on the show before. Rob Bradley is the CEO and founder of the Institute for Energy Research. He is the author of seven books, most recently Edison to Enron, Energy Markets and Political Strategies.

He's also the author of Energy, The Master Resource, which is the inspiration for the leading free market energy blog, master resource.org.

And for listeners of this show, perhaps the most interesting thing about Rob Bradley is that the chairman of his Ph.D. Dissertation Committee was none other than Murray Rothbard.

Rob Bradley, welcome to the show.

Great to be with you, Tom.

I've been talking to Bob Murphy quite a bit lately about show ideas, and I said I want to talk about Bernie Sanders proposals, and one of them has to do with energy, and throwing more federal money at wind power and solar power and so on and so forth is one of his proposals, as is a tax on carbon emissions and so on. I mean, very

conventional leftist approach to energy, really, but all the same, very important to respond

to that. So he said, I don't think you've ever had Rob Bradley on your show. I've done over

470 episodes. I've never had you on. So I thought this is the perfect topic to talk about. It's not directly in the news this particular second. So it's not like there's an urgent news hook, but I think Bernie Sanders is an urgent news hook. So let's start with what seems plausible to the average person.

That maybe, given the side effects of fossil fuels, it would be better if we could devote more resources to things like wind power and solar power that seem to have no such unpleasant consequences and can generate clean energy for us on a renewable basis.

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