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I am your host, Michael Covel.

Not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

I love this story.

At least it changed me and I've talked about it before.

But in first speaking with Ed Saccoda in person, he asked me to read Atlas Shrugged. I had never read it. But I felt like,

well, what the hell? I want to talk to this guy, Ed. He wants me to read this book before we continue our conversation.

So I'm going to read it. And I did. I've not read Atlas Shrugged again. It's been a long time.

I did go on to read The Fountainhead. So I've only read two books by Ein Rand. I like the Fountainhead better.

I liked all the principles, thoughts, the foundations of Atlas

shrugged. I love the Francisco Dioconia money speech. Fantastic. But I like the Howard Rourke character

better and like a John Gault. John Gault was this archetype, kind of not like a real person,

said everything, knew everything

the right way, but Rourke just felt more like a real person to me.

Today I want to go back in time.

I want to go back to 1959, an interview, Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes fame, and I think

this was before 60 Minutes, Mike Wallace interviewing 60 Minutes fame, and I think this was before 60 minutes, Mike Wallace interviewing

Einrand.

I enjoyed this conversation.

I hope you enjoy it.

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