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Ep. 47 - Revoice Conference, Subtracting Christianity, Hamartano & Hamartia

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Canon Press

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2018

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Howdy! Listen in to hear Pastor Wilson talk about the upcoming Revoice Conference, claiming the whole thing to be “counter productive in the extreme”. He plods on to review Joseph Sobran’s book, “Subtracting Christianity” and finishes things off with another look at Hamartano and Hamartia in Acts. Show Notes:   Revoice Conference: A doctrine has developed in the Evangelical & Reformed wing of the Church saying that someone can have a gay identity and be a Christian provided that they live a celibate lifestyle Their identity can be gay but their behavior in the bedroom cannot be gay The problem is that people don’t see the connection between effeminacy in manner and what winds up happening sexually, don’t start something you cannot finish This revoice conference saying that they want to minister to homosexuals by letting them keep everything they can possibly keep is extremely counter productive   Subtracting Christianity: Written by Joseph Sobran This book is a collection of Sobran’s columns He is a very engaging writer, making you think deep Some of his criticisms of Israel are silly He does have a cockeyed view from what is going on in the east However, he has a sane, healthy, and happy voice for traditional Christian values   Hamartano & Hamartia Consider the book of Acts Hamartano is used once in Acts, where it is rendered as offend (Acts 25:8) Hamartia is used eight times in Acts, (Acts 2:38, 3:19, 5:31, 7:6, 10:43, 13:38, 22:16, 26:18 Apostolic preaching frequently included the topic of sin. The relative absence of sin in much of modern preaching is therefore a great mystery. Our theologians are still working on it

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0:00.0

Yes, God, God. God with me. Good to have you with us here. In a few weeks, we're going to be treated to the spectacle of a Re- Voice conference in St. Louis, Missouri, sponsored by a PCA church, Memorial Presbyterian, I believe.

0:37.0

And there are some, and covenant seminary is there in St. Louis and there's some people from the seminary who are associated with the conference

0:46.3

Although the seminary has disavowed any kind of sponsorship link.

0:53.8

There's still a presence there.

0:56.9

So what is the Revoise conference?

1:00.0

Well, in recent years, a doctrine has developed in the Evangelical and Reformed

1:08.6

wing of the church that says that basically someone can have a gay identity, they can be a lesbian or male

1:16.4

homosexual, they can be have a gay identity and be a Christian who's walking

1:22.4

with the Lord,

1:24.0

provided that they live a celibate lifestyle.

1:28.0

So by celibate, they mean abstaining from sexual relations.

1:32.0

In other words, their identity can be gay, but their behavior

1:38.6

in the bedroom cannot be gay. They cannot marry. So advocates of the gay celibate position are opposed to same sex,

1:50.9

what I call same sex mirage, but they're opposed to same sex marriages.

1:55.0

They're opposed to same sex sexual expression, but they're not opposed to having a queer identity or a gay identity.

2:07.0

One of the talks for this conference speculated as to what queer treasures might be brought into the New Jerusalem.

2:17.0

So basically what it boils down to is that you can be as effeminate in your mannerisms and in your public disposition as you want to be.

2:30.3

And no one can say different because the Bible doesn't prohibit that. The Bible does

2:34.2

prohibit having your flame on in the bedroom but it doesn't prohibit walking with

2:42.4

a mincing step or being a feminine in your mannerisms or in your emotional

2:49.8

outlook. So a gay identity is fine. Gay sexual expression is not fine. And what this

3:02.0

conference is intending to do is invite LGBT-Q plus, you know, whatever all the other

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