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slash UK slash AI for people. We claim that our rich life is spending time with our family, but we're spending 15% of take-home pay

on delivery fees for pizza.

And you start to realize what we say is our rich life is not being reflected in our numbers.

Now, it doesn't make you a bad person.

Everybody, including me, my numbers are misaligned with my rich life. That's life. We just need to constantly be going through the

process of trying to realign.

Hey everyone, thanks for joining us today on Her Money. I'm Gene Chatsky. Very glad to have you along with us today.

The topic of couples and money, it's one we keep coming back to on this show because money is one of

the issues, if not the top issue, that causes couples to fight, even causes couples to divorce. But we know so much

of that heartache could be avoided if we could just get ourselves to talk it out, if we could

communicate more, if we made more of an effort to have those difficult conversations before our relationships started

to struggle. Don't get me wrong, not saying that these conversations are easy. They can be

fraught. Money is emotional. It is so personal. That is why it often feels easier to just

kick the can down the road one more time. But my guest today,

Ramit Seychi, says these conversations can actually feel good, that they can be something that

brings you and your partner closer together and that you may even start looking forward to them.

Because ultimately, when you're talking about money, you're talking about life.

You're talking about the life that you are building together.

That is a beautiful thing.

You all know Ramit, he has been here before.

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