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Hi guys, I'm Emma.

And I'm Julie.

And welcome back to another episode, H usual.

Hi, Em.

I honestly don't even know how to start this because I have completely lost the ability to be chill about the current situation.

The current situation being the show off campus. No, you guys, we are down so bad. I personally am down

bad in a way I have never been before. I've never seen you like this, but which this is what I was

going to ask you. I feel like this was the reaction that I had the

first time I watched one tree hill. Like it was, I was sick over it. It was all consuming. Are you having a

late in life reaction to a teen show that you probably should have experienced for the first time

when you were 16, but didn't? Yes. Like, yes, confirmed that is what it's up. Has this ever happened to you? No, not to this

extent. This is visceral, feeling it in my bones, can't think of anything else, wake up in the

morning first thing I think about in my dreams every night. Like I am going through it. I said to Julie

right before we came on, I was like, I don't know how we're going to do this

episode because I can't talk about this normally.

Like I actively feel myself being abnormal about it, but this is my truth.

I will say, this is like a really formative experience that every girl needs to have.

Well, me at 31 is having it because I never watched One Tree Hill in the way that you did. I didn't watch the O.C. Okay, so this experience is now making a lot more sense to me. Not that I am not experiencing it on a similar level, but what you are having, like, nothing in life has prepared you for this where I have like actively been training for this since I was

probably 12 years old. So like I understand the motions of what you go through when you develop a crush on

like the lead star in a teen show. You've never experienced the like fan fiction web pad like all of that

like plot points of your life. Right. No. No. I really have not. Okay, okay, okay. So, wow, welcome. No, no, no, no. Like, really, it's, it's very, very formative. I think it's never too late in life for this stuff happened. My question, though, is, does it go away? Like, what happens? I'm dead ass serious. Let me ask you a question. How often do I still talk about

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