Hi, everyone. I'm Karen Feinerman, and I'm delighted to share that we have a new season for you of my podcast, How She Does It. You may have seen me on CNBC. I'm a long-term Wall Street investor and a mom of four, and I love taking time to sit down with dynamic women leaders and touch on all things women, money, and power.

This season, we have Open Table CEO Debbie Sue,

today's show host Jenna Bush Hager, author Gretchen Rubin,

model and beauty CEO Pridicuaswarup, and more.

You can subscribe to how she does it on Apple Podcasts and learn more at hermoney.com.

See you soon.

Many people are very much enjoying their neurosis, and I always say, have another helping.

Go for it. Another year in purgatory. Let's go. I get it. I understand loss aversion.

I understand that's the game that the brain plays, right? It's so obsessed with guarding what

is that it's not willing to consider playing to win all that could be but the

game of life just like the game of finances is about making the decision to turn your head in the

direction of wins and if you're willing to do that we'll take you there hey everyone I'm

jean chatsky thank you so much for joining us today on her money.

Today we are going to talk about ambition. It is the fuel that powers success, the drive to do more, be more, have more.

But what if that ambition isn't leading us to happiness what if instead of

fulfilling us it's trapping us in a cycle of constant striving perfectionism and an

ever elusive sense of satisfaction today we are diving into the concept of

empty ambition that insatiable pursuit of success

that often leaves high achievers feeling exhausted, unfulfilled, and wondering, is this all

there is?

Joining us for this conversation is the woman who has quite literally written the book on it.

Karen Eldad is back here with us.

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