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I am your host, Michael Covell, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

One of the cooler ideas that I've seen a long time for up-and-coming traders that want to get noticed.

Let's say you've got the track record.

You know, you're in Omaha or you're in Ames, Iowa.

You're in the middle of nowhere.

Or you're in the big city. You're in New York City.

It's still hard to get noticed. Jack Swagger, the best-selling

author, has a new venture, fund cedar, and Jack's venture kind of is a matchmaking type

idea. I'm not going to try and explain it all. I'm going to let Jack do that.

Our conversation today covers Fun Cedar Plus some other questions that I've had nagging at me about Jack's career, things that I just wanted to ask.

I hope you enjoy this conversation with Jack Schwager.

Thank you. with Jack Schwager. So Jack, Jack, one of the things that I think is really cool about you that you, not only coming

on my podcast very early on, which helped a lot, because that was where I go back and

speaking of equity curves, I go back and I look at my jump and listens, and it really started with your first episode on my show.

But one of the things that you told me that was so cool, and I think this is, you told me this

several years ago, we might have even talked about it on a prior episode, but you mentioned

that you really liked that I had Jack Horner on, the paleontologist.

You know, I think that was like, open the gates for me.

Like I'm going to go invite anybody on now, not anybody, but within, within reason.

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