Hey, everyone. Welcome to Fat Mascara. I'm Jess.

Hi, I'm Jen. Welcome to our beauty podcast.

We have one of the most famous designers here on the podcast today.

A household name, Tory Birch, and I have to tell you this interview just like it

cracked me open. This was such a fantastic conversation.

I don't know. I feel like we got to see a different side of Tory.

You think you know Tory Birch, you think you know the flats, you think you know the bags,

you think you know, you know, you just think you know Tory, you don't know Tory.

You don't know Tory. You know, you know the brand.

You don't know the person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't know the woman.

She seems like a fun hang. She'd be with these family bleachers at the gym.

She's so, she's so cool. She's so funny.

She's so real. I just love talking to her and I think we just had a great chat

and I learned actually a lot about entertaining for the holidays.

And that's right. We had a great, I love it. Yeah, and we talked, we talked about beauty,

but we really just talked about fragrance and I don't know.

It was a fun, it was a fun holiday hang. So it was before we get into it,

let me just give you a little bit of background in case you're not familiar with Tory Birch,

other than the flats and the bags and everything.

So Tory's a designer, an entrepreneur and a philanthropist.

She's also the creator of Essence of Dreams, a five fragrance collection that was designed

to inspire wears to achieve their dreams.

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