In that last 100,000 years, we've had, we've experienced a tremendous amount of change.

And I would tell you that today, what's transformational and truly revolutionary is that

we are experiencing exponential change.

And we're getting ready to have exponential change where the exponents are going to double.

And that's going to cause a rupture in all the different mental models we use for leadership and strategy development.

Thank you. mental models we use for leadership and strategy development. Citizens of the United States of America, they don't recognize that they're now combatants and that their homes and their office spaces are actually virtual battle space.

Hey, welcome back to another episode of the Modern War Institute podcast. I'm John Amble, editorial director at MWI, and in this episode, you're going to hear a conversation

I had with Steve Bannock. Steve is a retired U.S. Army colonel who served for 27 years in uniform.

He commanded the 3rd Ranger Battalion, leading them on their parachute jump into Afghanistan

in October 2001, just a month after 9-11.

He later went on to lead the Army's School of Advanced Military Studies at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.

He's recently written a series of fascinating articles on the notion of virtual war.

In this conversation, he delves into what that concept entails, what its hallmarks are,

how it will change conflict in the future, how it is already changing conflict.

And he makes the case that we need to fundamentally rethink the way we conceptualize war

if we want to be able to succeed in the virtual battle space.

During this conversation, he makes several references to those articles.

So if you'd like to read them, find this podcast episode on the MWI website at

www.usma.edu, and we'll have links there.

Real quick, before we get into the discussion, just a couple notes.

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