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History of the Germans from the Middle Ages to Reunification

Ep. 46: Welf vs Staufer - Lothar III (1125-1137) - A Topsy Turvy World

History of the Germans from the Middle Ages to Reunification

Dirk Hoffmann-Becking

Education, History, Society & Culture

4.9551 Ratings

🗓️ 10 February 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

1130-1137 - Emperor Lothar III is getting embroiled in the schism between pope Innocent II and Anaclet II. Anaclet II is properly elected and holds Rome whilst Innocent II enjoys the support of the most influential church leader of the time, St. Bernard of Clairvaux. Fear of St. Bernard drives Lothar into the camp of Innocent II which means he has to go down to Italy and conquer Rome for the Pope. Not only that but it also means a conflict with Roger II by now king of Sicily and master of a large Norman /Saracen army. And hat is in it for him? A rewriting of the Concordat of Worms? Ownership of the lands of teh great countess Matilda? or something entirely different? Episode webpage: Episode 48 - Conrad's Conundrum • History of the Germans Podcast Episode webpage: Episode 46 - A Topsy Turvy World • History of the Germans Podcast The music for the show is Flute Sonata in E-flat major, H.545 by Carl Phillip Emmanuel Bach (or some claim it as BWV 1031 Johann Sebastian Bach) performed and arranged by Michel Rondeau under Common Creative Licence 3.0. As always: Homepage with maps, photos, transcripts and blog: www.historyofthegermans.com Facebook: @HOTGPod Twitter: @germanshistory Instagram: history_of_the_germans Reddit: u/historyofthegermans Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Historyofthegermans

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the history of the Germans, episode 46, a topsy-turvy world.

0:12.0

We're still in the year 1130, but now we're moving swiftly on. The church is breaking

0:18.1

apart into a schism and Lothar the third sides, with what turns out

0:22.2

to be the winning side, clever, and then mucks up the negotiations, not clever, and then

0:28.1

he dies.

0:30.1

Before we start, just a reminder.

0:32.3

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0:51.4

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0:55.8

You find all the links in the show notes.

1:00.3

And thanks a lot to Paul, Nathan and Ollie who've already signed up.

1:05.9

Last week we ran through the huge divisions that split the papacy in 1130.

1:08.2

Two sides oppose each other.

1:11.8

On the one hand, you have the old Gregorian Reform Party, represented by the Papal Bankers, the Pierre Leone, the grand old monastery of Cluny,

1:17.2

and the emerging scholastic method, trying to marry logic and faith. On the other side,

1:22.9

you have an even less likely alliance. It's the successes of the old aristocratic thugs and the new monastic

1:30.2

reform movement of Bernad of Clervaux that is underpinned by its own brand of ecstatic mysticism.

1:38.3

Lothover III had managed to keep himself outside of all these debates as long as Pope Honorius

1:43.2

II was alive. He did pretty much

1:45.8

whatever Honourius II or his papal leggates wanted him to do. Appoint Norbert as Archbishop of Magdeburg,

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