This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Alteter Show on the Stansbury Radio Network.

I'm here with Chris Gillabo and Chris.

Welcome to the show.

Hey James, thanks so much.

It's a huge honor.

You know Chris, I like to do the show around this idea that people can choose themselves

for career, for success, for happiness and these choices, they make these choices rather

than making the choices that have been imposed on them by society, whether it's parents

or corporations or the mythology of what we're supposed to do.

And you have really, you're like the pinnacle example of someone who's chosen himself.

Well, that's kind of you to say.

I think my values are certainly aligned with your mission.

I mean, for what I've been trying to do with art of non-comformity, it's a very, very

similar mission statement.

I've always said that the mission statement of what I'm trying to do is to help people

understand they don't have to live their life the way others expect.

They can do good things for themselves and for other people at the same time.

It's not a false choice.

And, you know, here's, here are all the stories of different people around the world who've

done that, you know, in their own way.

So I think that, I think you said some very powerful things there.

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