Ep. 457: Civil War - Part 1: The Seeds of War
Bear Grease
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4.9 • 7.4K Ratings
🗓️ 20 May 2026
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
Host Clay Newcomb begins a new series on the American Civil War with historian and educator, JD Hewitt, of The History Underground. Clay invites you to go on a journey to ask the question that still divides Americans more than 160 years later: What was the Civil War really about? From slavery and states’ rights to Southern identity, economic power, abolitionists, and the lasting cultural memory of the Confederacy, Clay and JD attempt to navigate one of the most complicated and emotionally charged subjects in American history with honesty and nuance. The conversation traces the roots of the conflict from the founding of America through the rise of King Cotton, the contradictions of Thomas Jefferson, the expansion of slavery westward, and the radical actions of John Brown that helped push the nation toward war.
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| 0:45.0 | Okay. theories listen on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts people still talk about it like it happened last week and they talk about it in in ways that are are deeply personal so whether it's |
| 0:54.0 | somebody you know who maybe has ancestors who were part of the union or ancestors |
| 0:59.6 | who were part of the Confederacy, they don't talk about it in terms of they went here |
| 1:06.3 | or they went there or they did this or they did that. |
| 1:09.5 | They say, we. |
| 1:17.2 | In this series about the American Civil War, we'll try to understand why it happened, |
| 1:19.8 | who the players were, and their motivations. |
| 1:21.7 | That's the big one, their motivations. |
| 1:27.1 | What this war was and wasn't takes a nuanced perspective to understand it. |
| 1:29.4 | It's striking to me how prominent this war remains in the American psyche, even 161 years after the final shots were fired. |
| 1:36.9 | And like many, I understand the basics of the civil war, but my deeper knowledge is limited. |
| 1:43.2 | In recent years, we've heard updated narratives on the conflict from multiple sides, |
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