Hey guys, welcome to relatable. I hope everyone is having a wonderful day. You guys loved

part one of my conversation with author Kathleen Stock. And so this is part two. I'm really

excited for you guys to hear it without further ado. Here again is Kathleen Stock.

When it comes to children, I just cannot believe that the psychological and psychiatric

profession have, I don't know what has happened to them. I really don't know what has happened

to them because these are not stupid people and they're not, you would think, particularly

conservative, but when it comes to this issue, I've got books which say, you know, a child's

gender identity emerges around the age of three. And I've seen videos of gender identity therapists

talking about looking for evidence in children and like maybe the boy picks up a hair clip or

you know, the girl moves towards the action man and these are signs of something inside them. It's

just, it's just incredible. It's strange and I'm not totally sure to answer your question.

Why in this segment of science, it seems like many academics and doctors and scientists are so

anti-scientific. But I don't know why we can't allow just kids to be kids. I think about when I was

when I was in preschool, the only thing that I would allow my mom to put me in was jeans and a

white t-shirt. I did not want to wear a dress. I didn't want to wear bows that embarrassed me.

And you know, I bought, my parents were a little concerned there for a while because I only

wanted to read books about snakes and I really liked worms. I mean, it was just me being a kid. I

had two older brothers at the same time. I had a boyfriend from the time that I was in preschool.

I was just being who I was and there was never a thought in my parents' mind or in my mind that

maybe she should be the other gender. And I just wonder if I had been the same way in this era,

would there have been teachers and administrators and social workers and pediatricians in my life

pushing me into starting a plan of hormone blockers and how drastically that would have changed

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