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I think James Rowland is more likely just because he is real.

So I have so many things I want to talk about. There's a few sound clips as well. Let's start with 60 minutes because you know why not last weekend on 60 minutes.

They aired one of their segments. The last one was about the Southern Baptist Convention and specifically they got an interview with the new president of the Southern Baptist Convention. His name is Bart Barber. He was elected over the summer.

Okay.

And you know, the first thing about it is really the head of the Southern Baptist Convention is going on TV to talk about his denomination.

Do they generally send him to the Baptist server? Right? Do they love to talk?

You would think except the only reason you would want to talk to the head of the SPC right now is because of all their sexual abuse stuff.

So it's like, oh really, you want to be the face of the operation when all this is going on.

Right. Okay.

And so they even said Anderson Cooper, who is the host of that segment, he opened up the segment saying about Barber.

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