Ep. 445: Fighting The War Of Attrition

Happier in Hollywood

The Onward Project

Careers, Education, Business, Self-improvement

4.8 • 2.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Every episode, Liz and Sarah refer to winning the “war of attrition.” Today they discuss concrete ways to get IN that war — you can’t win if you’re not in the fight! In Career Lessons With Laverne, they talk to career coach extraordinaire, Laverne McKinnon, about how to handle someone being incredibly rude. This week’s Hollywood Hack is for pet owners — Paw Inspired reusable crate liners/pee pads. Finally, Sarah recommends Burn It Down by Maureen Ryan.

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LINKS:

Jen Grisanti:

https://www.jengrisanti.com/

Carole Kirschner:

https://www.carolekirschner.com/

Jordana Oberman:

https://www.jordanaoberman.com/

Moonshot Mentor:

https://www.lavernemckinnon.com/

Burn It Down: Power, Complicity, and a Call for Change in Hollywood by Maureen Ryan: https://amzn.to/3LUIiyx

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Lemonada.
0:06.0	Sarah, I got my pitch shirt dry clean this weekend, and it came back missing a button.
0:12.3	So hopefully you won't notice that my wrist is a safety pinned closed.
0:20.4	Just keep your arms down.
0:22.8	No wild gesturing.
0:24.8	It's a nice thing about Zoom.
0:31.5	Hi, and welcome to Happier in Hollywood, the podcast about how to be happier, healthier,
0:36.1	saner, more creative, more successful, and more productive, and a happier, healthier, sane, or more creative, more
0:38.0	successful, and more productive, and a backbiting, superficial, chaotic, unpredictable,
0:42.7	fundamentally insane world.
0:44.7	I'm Liz Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in L.A., and with me is my high school
0:49.0	friend and writing partner, Sarah.
0:51.4	That's me, Sarah Fane.
0:53.0	On this podcast, we talk about being writers in Hollywood,
0:55.9	how we balance a career and friendship, and how to survive the War of Attrition that is
1:00.6	life in Los Angeles. And today, inspired by a recent conversation I had with an aspiring
1:06.8	TV writer, we are going to talk about the aforementioned War of Attrition.
1:12.5	Yes. And then in career lessons with Laverne, we'll talk to Laverne McKinnon about what to do when
1:18.7	someone is really rude to you. It happened to us as we've discussed, and Laverne's going to help
1:23.8	us dive a little deeper. This week, we have a pet Hollywood hack, and finally, Sarah has a book recommendation.
1:30.5	It's one we've talked about before, but it needs repeating.
1:34.4	But first, Liz, we have a couple hilarious updates from people who sent us emails about their personal horror slash most embarrassing stories.
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