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Hi guys, I'm Emma.

And I'm Julie.

And welcome back to another episode.

Hey, Joel.

Hi, I am.

I cannot believe that in the Lord's Year 2025, we're about to start this podcast with a Rob

Kardashian Black China mention.

Maybe they are our J-Lo and Ben Affleck.

No, okay.

I need to just backtrack for a second.

This all started, or at least between Julie and I discussing it, on the 14th,

when Black China posted an Instagram with the caption,

This Love is Forever at Rob Kardashian.

To clarify, he wasn't in the picture, but it still felt noteworthy, where we were like, is this something like kind of a wash this space type of situation? And then a few days later, she's doing an interview at the LA Women's Expo. And she says, me and Robert, we're healing and we're communicating and we're just going with the flow. And if God be, then it will be something.

We're just taking our time.

I'm excited.

He's my person.

Which like, okay.

And then the interviewer asks her if she wanted to have more children.

And if so, would she prefer to have them with Rob or another ex like Taiga?

And she responds, Rob, absolutely. So like, I don't know. Can I ask you a serious question? Are you downplaying for the sake of your podcast, your reaction to that Blackshine Instagram post? Or was that your actual reaction? Because it's totally fine if either of those things are correct. But I need you to understand that when I saw that post, I wasn't just like, hmm, that's noteworthy. I was like literally

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