This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

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I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

So who's this guy with the podcast and what makes him an authority on smart drugs or human brains or any of that?

My guest today is Jesse Lawler, the host of a really, really interesting podcast called Smart Drug Smarts. Trust me, you want to listen today.

This is an outside-the-box perspective. If you like to just imagine the world, like you imagine

it, and you don't really want to learn anything new, turn off right now.

But if you want to go down the rabbit hole and you'd like a few aha moments about health, fitness, and enhancing cognitive performance,

Jesse Lawler has some fantastic insights.

Gosh, do we even never define what health even means?

You know, it's a simple, and you kind of talk about this in the intro of your life and world to the general public, but really don't even talk about what health is. How do you define it? How do you quantify it? Yeah, I can't remember exactly where I read this, but somebody was talking about exactly that issue, that health is, there's that Supreme Court decision on porn. And like, you can't define it, but you know it when you see it.

And health is kind of one of those things that we have a lot of, I mean, obviously, being alive, not being dead, is, you know, a pretty good statement of health.

But sometimes, like, what we think of, well, athletes, they're really healthy, right?

But the people that are able to pull off sometimes, you know, miraculous physical feats,

a lot of times in the course of pulling off those feats, they're actually hurting their body pretty bad.

Like some of these ultramarathoners and things like that, I mean, there's no question.

These are amazing athletic performances, but they can be pretty detrimental.

So, yeah, health is a tricky thing to define.

You're absolutely right.

And then we bring it to performance.

I mean, you could be healthy, but can you perform?

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