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I am your host, Michael Covell, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

I'm being a little sarcastic when I use that Turtles song, and I'm talking Turtles,

the pop group from the 60s song called Outside Chance.

But I think for most people that want the easy riches and most people that want the lottery type,

I have to have it right now, fantasy, quick money, outside chance probably best describes

your chances of getting there because that's not the way the world works.

But, you know, even more fun, well, I don't know if that's a fun thought.

I guess I could take it as a fun thought.

Maybe it's not fun for you.

I don't know.

But that Turtle's song has some relevance, I guess, to my second book.

Not necessarily the song, but the band. And, you know,

historically, it's always been said that the turtles are named the turtles. Now I'm speaking of

the trading tribe group of turtles trained by Richard Dennis.

And it's always been, and that's the subject of my second book, the complete turtle trader.

But it's always been said that the turtles themselves, this group of students that were trained by Richard Dennis to be very successful traders,

it's always been said that they were named that way because

Dennis had been in a turtle breeding farm in Singapore and that he saw this big vat of turtles.

They were swimming around and that's where they grew turtles. And he said to himself, well, I want to,

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