Ep. 439 - Inside the Illicit Succulent Trade
In Defense of Plants Podcast
In Defense of Plants
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🗓️ 17 September 2023
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
Succulent poaching is a global black market business. The demand for succulents of all kinds is putting undue pressure of myriad species, many of which are on the brink of extinction. Join me and Dr. Jared Margulies as we talk about his new book "The Cactus Hunters: Desire and Extinction in the Illicit Succulent Trade" and learn how he followed the threads of the illicit succulent trade to understand why poaching happens and how we can aim to stop at least some of it. This episode was produced in part by Heidi, Kristin, Luke, Sea, Shannon, Thomas, Will, Jamie, Waverly, Brent, Tanner, Rick, Kazys, Dorothy, Katherine, Emily, Theo, Nichole, Paul, Karen, Randi, Caelan, Tom, Don, Susan, Corbin, Keena, Robin, Peter, Whitney, Kenned, Margaret, Daniel, Karen, David, Earl, Jocelyn, Gary, Krysta, Elizabeth, Southern California Carnivorous Plant Enthusiasts, Pattypollinators, Peter, Judson, Ella, Alex, Dan, Pamela, Peter, Andrea, Nathan, Karyn, Michelle, Jillian, Chellie, Linda, Laura, Miz Holly, Christie, Carlos, Paleo Fern, Levi, Sylvia, Lanny, Ben, Lily, Craig, Sarah, Lor, Monika, Brandon, Jeremy, Suzanne, Kristina, Christine, Silas, Michael, Aristia, Felicidad, Lauren, Danielle, Allie, Jeffrey, Amanda, Tommy, Marcel, C Leigh, Karma, Shelby, Christopher, Alvin, Arek, Chellie, Dani, Paul, Dani, Tara, Elly, Colleen, Natalie, Nathan, Ario, Laura, Cari, Margaret, Mary, Connor, Nathan, Jan, Jerome, Brian, Azomonas, Ellie, University Greens, Joseph, Melody, Patricia, Matthew, Garrett, John, Ashley, Cathrine, Melvin, OrangeJulian, Porter, Jules, Griff, Joan, Megan, Marabeth, Les, Ali, Southside Plants, Keiko, Robert, Bryce, Wilma, Amanda, Helen, Mikey, Michelle, German, Joerg, Cathy, Tate, Steve, Kae, Carole, Mr. Keith Santner, Lynn, Aaron, Sara, Kenned, Brett, Jocelyn, Ethan, Sheryl, Runaway Goldfish, Ryan, Chris, Alana, Rachel, Joanna, Lori, Paul, Griff, Matthew, Bobby, Vaibhav, Steven, Joseph, Brandon, Liam, Hall, Jared, Brandon, Christina, Carly, Kazys, Stephen, Katherine, Mohsin Kazmi Takes Pictures, Manny, doeg, Daniel, Tim, Philip, Tim, Lisa, Brodie, Bendix, Irene, holly, Sara, and Margie.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to the Indefense Plants Podcast, the official podcast of |
| 0:04.0 | InefensePlants.com. What's up, this is your host Matt, welcome to the show. How is everyone |
| 0:08.0 | doing this week? Today we are tackling a heavy subject, but I assure you my guess today |
| 0:14.0 | has taken it on in the most professional and nuanced way possible, and that kind of |
| 0:18.2 | you is sorely needed. We are talking about a new book called The Cactus Hunters, Desire |
| 0:22.8 | and Extinction in the Elicit Succulent Trade, that is authored by Dr. Jared Margulay. |
| 0:27.2 | If you've been listening to this podcast for a while now, you might have remembered |
| 0:30.3 | Dr. Margulay's from our conversation about the Elicit Dudlea Trade. But in this book, he |
| 0:35.1 | expands into the Elicit Plant Trade so much more and tells stories from all perspectives. |
| 0:39.6 | Of course, all of this is rooted in trying to make better recommendations for plant |
| 0:43.6 | conservation efforts so that poaching doesn't drive these species to the brink or beyond. |
| 0:48.0 | It's a fascinating and great read, and of course, you'll find links to pick up a copy for |
| 0:52.4 | yourself in the show notes for this episode. But before we get to that, I just want to say, |
| 0:56.3 | if you're enjoying this podcast, consider supporting it. There are a lot of great ways to do that, |
| 1:00.4 | and one of the best is by becoming a patron over at patreon.com slash indefensive plants. |
| 1:05.2 | For a little bit of financial support each month, you can get a lot of fun kickbacks, |
| 1:09.3 | and most importantly, ensure the show has a future. But that is entirely enough out of me. |
| 1:14.4 | Let's get into this topic without further ado. Here's my conversation with Dr. Jared Margulay's. |
| 1:19.3 | I hope you enjoy. |
| 1:26.3 | All right. Dr. Jared Margulay's welcome back to the podcast. It's been a while. |
| 1:38.8 | We're meeting under better circumstances globally at this point in time. But for those that |
| 1:44.1 | didn't hear the 2020 episode where we talked, let's start off with an introduction. Tell |
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