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🗓️ 8 June 2021
⏱️ 38 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Today I am talking to Dr. Kathleen Stock. She is a professor |
0:16.3 | from the UK. She is a feminist. She is a progressive in many senses of the word and she has been |
0:21.7 | pushing back against the so-called gender identity movement. She's got a very interesting |
0:26.7 | perspective on this. Obviously, she and I are coming from two different places in our opposition |
0:33.1 | to what we see as the eraser of women and biological categories. I've got the Christian conservative |
0:39.6 | worldview and she has a different perspective and a different angle, which I think is so valuable |
0:47.1 | and adds a lot to our understanding of the subject to be able to understand it from every different |
0:54.0 | perspective. So I'm really, really excited for you to hear this conversation without further |
0:59.0 | ado. Here is Dr. Kathleen Stock. Dr. Stock, thank you so much for joining me. Can you tell everyone |
1:10.2 | who you are and what you deal? My name is Kathleen Stock. I'm a professor of philosophy at a British |
1:17.7 | University called the University of Sussex. I've recently, in the last two years, I've started |
1:24.7 | writing about sex and gender, sex in the sense of biology and gender and this thing called |
1:32.3 | gender identity, which is an increasingly common popular concept. I've got a book coming out |
1:40.2 | called Material Girls, Why Reality Matters for Feminism, where I take on this idea of gender identity |
1:46.8 | and say that there's both some philosophical problems with it and some practical problems with it |
1:52.6 | that mainly impact on women and children. Let's start with the philosophical problems with it. |
1:58.2 | I think you and I are probably coming from from what I can tell two kind of different perspectives. |
2:03.8 | We both see some similar problems with the gender identity movement. I'm a conservative Christian, |
2:09.9 | so I kind of have that perspective. You're coming at it from a different angle. So in your opinion, |
2:15.3 | what are the philosophical problems with the gender identity movement? |
2:20.9 | Okay, yes. So I'm coming at it from I'm gay myself and I think I'm broadly speaking on the left, |
2:27.9 | although there's very many different versions of the left and I'm certainly not on board with all |
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