Just to be chaotic.

I think if you haven't had a book out since before COVID and you do not, hell, you're a debut.

It starts.

So do you think Tiari Jones is a debut?

Yeah, and it's so impressive that she makes it. It's so impressive what she's done with Kinn. For a debut, it's incredible. No, I mean, like, I think the part that I'm really just trying to say, any book coming out right now feels like a subversion and a weird kind of insurrection against the tide of what is happening to the attention economy.

Yes.

And that part feels wild.

Like, when I look around, I'm like, books are so trending.

However, nobody really wants new books and nobody really wants books by like authors.

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