They're bad, they're boys, and occasionally they talk about running.

Yes, it's the Bad Boy Running podcast with your host, Jody Rainsford, and David Heller.

Come back.

Baby, come back.

But a bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

I must admit I was a clown to be messing around.

But that doesn't mean that you have to leave town.

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So do badders.

Welcome to Bad Boy Running.

Our next guest actually is courtesy of The Running Show, who is coming up shortly to get your tickets if you haven't already.

But we've been talking quite a lot about, we've always wondered what to do with old trainers,

old medals, old shirts, we spoke to Damo a few weeks ago about his, how he's viewing being a

responsible runner. And then I saw an email about Tony and how the fact he could recycle trainers, which I didn't think was possible. So I had to, I've done no other research other than that. I don't know how he does it, what he does. If it's magic, if it's marketing, if it's... So I've got to want to explain it all. So hopefully it's all good news. So welcome to the podcast. The wonderful

be a dad.

I know, don't get it wrong. You got it right. Perfect. I got right. Yes. Well done. It's the first

challenge over at Dunwin. It was too long since you told me to the

point I said it again. You lost faith as you were saying it. And you know, I've had it all. I've had

P.D.D. Pie Daddy. It's great, but it's Pia Dad. Thank you. Piedaddy. I thought, I thought,

I thought it might have been some like clever YouTube name

where you know it was like PA for foot and daddy like I'm the foot daddy type thing

I thought I thought it was some like clever thing going on there I love it I love it no

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