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Hi guys, I'm Emma.

And I'm Julie.

And welcome back to another episode.

Hey, Joel.

I am.

Never once in my life have I watched Big Brother, Celebrity Big Brother, any variation of the show.

Yet the way I am hooked in on this

Jojo C-Wall, Chris Hughes thing, is honestly unbelievable. I never thought that you and I would

be talking about Big Brother ever. But I do like when an opportunity like this presents itself,

because it really reminds me, like, we have range here. Do we? Sometimes sometimes we know nothing about the show we just like got

so invested because of tic-tok i don't think our range is reflective of our knowledge it's more

reflective of like our ability to become instantaneously interested in something that we never once were before.

Well, it was the kind of thing where everyone's first talking about it, I tuned it out because, again, big brother, not my thing.

But then slowly it was inescapable.

And I was like, yeah, I'll bite.

What's happening here?

And then as I started to consume more content, I was like, all right, I'm sorry, something's, something's going on here.

No, literally one day you're seeing this go a little bit viral, but assuming it will never have

anything to do with you. And then the next day, it's the morning of Ria's wedding,

and you're sending her Jojo see while Chris Hughes Stan edits.

I literally am like, okay, I know it's your wedding morning, but you need to see this.

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