Marina and Jemma start with a clip that hugely inspires them both. Across the pond, Jon Stewart, shows how to hold someone to account in an interview.

Then, Isabel Oakeshott and Cathy Newman have a tete- a -tete (or tete-a- tit) in an exchange with a very different vibe before our hosts dive into the increasingly appalling and enlightening Lockdown Files.

Meanwhile, over at GB News, a lawyer is furious with someone for doing exactly as he asked them to do and then, the woman who was once on everyone's lips, is back. Sue Gray is making headlines once again. Jemma and Marina explore what her new appointment could be about. 

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