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Deep Questions with Cal Newport

Ep. 42: GREG MCKEOWN and I Discuss Unplugging, Doing Less, and Finding Focus

Deep Questions with Cal Newport

Cal Newport

Education, Technology, Self-improvement

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2020

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In this special episode of DEEP QUESTIONS, I rebroadcast a conversation recorded earlier this summer, featuring me and the bestselling author Greg McKeown. It originally aired on Greg's fantastic podcast, WHAT'S ESSENTIAL (https://gregmckeown.com/podcast/).You probably know Greg from his influential 2014 book, ESSENTIALISM, which I recommend all the time. In this conversation, we talk about unplugging from distraction, the art of doing less (without accomplishing less), and how to improve your ability to focus.I hope you enjoy it. Thanks to our sponsors Magic Spoon (use magicspoon.com/CAL to receive free shipping) and Blinkist (use blinkist.com/DEEP for a 7 day free trial).Also thanks to listener Jay Kerstens for the intro music. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Cal Newport and this is deep questions. Now normally on a Thursday I would be releasing a Habit Tune Up mini episode.

0:27.0

That's the format where I take voice questions from listeners and we get into nitty gritty details about upgrading their

0:36.3

productivity habits.

0:38.9

The day that I'm recording and releasing this however, November the 5th, is one ironically in which we are probably

0:47.3

too distracted to be thinking clearly about productivity techniques.

0:54.6

So with that in mind, I thought today I would do something a little bit different

0:58.3

to provide some content that was perhaps a little bit more distracting on its own, perhaps a little bit more philosophical,

1:05.0

something that you could get lost in more effectively, at least for a little while.

1:10.0

So in particular, what I am going to do today is share with you a conversation I had earlier in the summer with the author Greg McEwen.

1:21.0

This was an interview that I did for Greg's podcast, which I highly recommend, and

1:29.9

he has kindly allowed me to release the interview on my feed here for the Deep Questions

1:35.3

podcast so that those of you who did not hear it on his podcast can hear it here.

1:41.6

If you don't know Greg, he is most well known for his book

1:45.0

Essentialism this is a book I think is essential to the modern Canada both not just productivity but but thinking about meaning and

1:55.1

satisfaction and doing effective work more generally it is the definitive word

2:01.8

on avoiding overload it is the definitive word on avoiding overload

2:04.3

it is the definitive word on reducing what's on your plate

2:07.9

down to something manageable

2:09.6

why that is not only tractable

2:11.7

but also something from a psychological and even perhaps

2:14.7

spiritual perspective is really critical. Greg gave a very nice endorsement

2:22.0

blurb for digital minimalism. He's someone who's

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