EP: 412 The Kingdom Manifesto with Brad Gray and Joel Edwards

Blurry Creatures

Nature, Science, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 March 2026

⏱️ 117 minutes

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It's Holy Week, and most of us will say the Lord's Prayer at some point over the next few days without ever really hearing it. Brad Gray, author of "Bringing Heaven Here" and a veteran of over fifteen years of biblical study hiking trips in Israel, joins filmmaker and Evolve Studios founder Joel Edwards in the Blurry Basement to walk through The Lord's Prayer that Jesus gave us and show why it's not a formula or a ritual but a kingdom manifesto. Brad walks through how this prayer functions as a chiasm with "kingdom come" at its center, how each line echoes the Exodus narrative, and why the early church prayed it three times a day as a discipleship anchor. This isn't a crusty piece of liturgy. It's the most powerful thing Jesus ever gave us and quite possibly the most underutilized. The conversation also dives into forgiveness as the number one foothold for the demonic, temptation as spiritual warfare language, and prayer as participation rather than just petition. Joel and Brad share the incredible story of making both the film and the series, a journey marked by relentless opposition and miraculous provision at every turn. The crew arrived in Israel the same night Iran launched an unprecedented missile and drone attack on the country, and when the dust settled and the airspace closed, they found themselves with empty holy sites and open doors no film crew had ever walked through, including the inner tomb shrine at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Six years in the making, "The Lord's Prayer" film and "The Sacred Thread" series are now streaming on Angel. Watch it free at angel.com/blurry and grab the book "Bringing Heaven Here" at thelordsprayer.com. This episode is sponsored by: https://timtebow.com/tree-blurry/ — Get your copy of If the Tree Could Speak by Tim Tebow on Amazon today!https://livemomentous.com — Get up to 35% off your first order with promo code BLURRY at checkout!https://go.goodranchers.com/BLURRY — Get $25 off your first order with code BLURRY at checkout! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	And so when Jesus says, pray, you know, our Father in the heavens, the one, you rule and reign on high, you are holy, your kingdom come and your will be done on earth as it is in heaven, Jesus is talking about how are you partnering with God to see the goodness and power of heaven to take up residence here?
0:23.5	And this was like for me, the moment where everything like, because Jesus didn't come just to take us from here to go there.
0:30.1	Right. There's not escapism.
0:31.3	Everything he's talking about is how do you get the goodness and power of heaven to take up residents here.
0:38.3	The history of our earth is so different from what we can imagine.
0:44.3	The Smithsonian that if they found out about a large skeleton somewhere was to go get it.
0:52.3	I'm going to assume at least one person is right, because if one person's right to bust the paradigm,
0:58.0	it all goes back to the fallen chair.
1:00.0	And the problem with the modern-day church, they have a very truncated view of the supernatural.
1:04.0	This backdrop that's just pregnant with all kinds of meaning associated with this Mount Hermon event.
1:18.0	And this guy defects from the kingdom.
1:19.7	That's a big deal.
1:31.7	What if the prayer you've known, Luke, for a lifetime, holds the key to living a life of abundance and purpose?
1:39.9	We've got director Joel Edwards and author of the book, Bringing Heaven Here, Brad Gray, in the studio, in the blurry basement.
1:41.3	Welcome, gentlemen, and come down here.
2:01.1	We're talking about the Lord's Prayer today and all things supernatural. We're talking to NT right yesterday about bringing heaven here. And we're going to keep that conversation going today. So we're excited. I don't know when those episodes are coming out. But we're in that vein with you guys. So we'd love to hop into the story. You made a film. And the film is called... Film is called The Lord's Prayer. Okay. Yeah.
2:01.4	And then this is the book.
2:03.1	Yeah.
2:03.5	Brad, you and two brads. Yeah, two brads. Yeah. The two brads. You could have got a third Brad, you know, and it could have, it just could have been three. That sounds like a great podcast. Three brads, yeah. Now this is especially fun for me, because Brad, you are a teaching pastor at the church.
2:19.8	I go to church of the city here in Franklin. Now, this is especially fun for me, because Brad, you are a teaching pastor at the church.
2:19.7	I go to church of the city here in Franklin.
2:22.5	And we know each other a little bit.
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