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Ty Evans is one of the country's top mule trainers and clinicians.

And his journey with this misunderstood animal, the mule has changed his life.

And through working with him, he's learned what true leadership is

yeah through training a mule i think we're all going to learn something on this one and hey it's 2026

i'm ready to be something different to look at life in a new way, and to become the person I've always

known I should be. I think you're going to be surprised by this episode, and I really doubt that

you're going to want to miss this one. There's a quote. He would quote it a lot, but I learned

later that it was a Ray Hunt quote. They know if you know and they know if you don't know.

It might sound like a puzzle to some people listening.

But what I've come to find is they,

the mule or the horse, they are aware of your awareness.

They know what you're paying attention to, more or less.

My name is Clay Newcomb, and this is the Bear Grease podcast, where we'll explore things forgotten but relevant.

Search for insight in unlikely places and where we'll tell the story of Americans who live their lives close to the land.

Presented by FHF Gear, American-made, purpose-built, hunting and fishing gear that's designed to be as rugged as the

places we explore.

On March 3, 2011 in Ogden, Utah, 21-year-old Ty Evans entered the Weber State University

rodeo.

And what happened would change his life?

Well, they used to send out stock draws about a week in advance.

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