Hey guys, welcome to relatable. Today I am so excited to talk to Darryl Harrison and

Virgil Walker of the Just Thinking Podcast. We are going to talk all about equity and equality

and the social justice movement and people leaving the church based on some idea of what

the church's responsibilities are in the way of racial reconciliation and reparations. We are

going to talk about Ibermex Kendi and his support of something or his adherence to something

called liberation theology and his stated rejection of something that he calls savior theology,

which is what you and I Orthodox Christians hold to. And we'll talk about that. I do want

to before I get into the conversation with Darryl and Virgil of the Just Thinking Podcast. I do want

to play you just a clip of this Ibermex Kendi conversation at a church in Manhattan that we are

going to break down at the beginning of our conversation and then we'll go right into the interview

with Darryl and Virgil. Liberation theology. In other words, Jesus was a revolutionary. And the job

of the Christian is to revolutionize society. That the job of the Christian is to liberate society

from the powers on earth that are oppressing humanity. Everybody understand that. So that's liberation

theology in a nutshell. Darryl, Virgil, thank you guys so much for joining me once again.

Lots I want to talk to you about today. First, I want to talk about this statement that has been

circulating on Twitter. At least it was at the time that we are recording this. Ibermex Kendi

at a Manhattan church talking about fundamentally rejecting savior theology and switching it out

for something that's called liberation theology. Now for people who have no idea what any of that

means Darryl, can you kind of just interpret what does he mean by savior theology versus liberation

theology? Yeah, Ali, first of all, thanks for having us on. We appreciate it. I just want to say

at the top here. I thought it was ironic that when Kendi was saying those words that he rejected

savior theology. I thought it ironic that he said those words in front of a sculpture that was

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