Hey guys, welcome to our late ball. Today I'm talking to Ryan Anderson. He's an expert

in all things, family, social, cultural issues and how it affects our political sphere.

We are going to talk about how Christians can face the current political, cultural, social

challenges that we are facing. He argues in a recent op-ed in the Wall Street Journal that

fighting for religious liberty, while so important, isn't quite enough. We've got to be fighting

for the issues that we care about. For example, the sanctity of life and the protection

of girls and what are supposed to be gender exclusive spaces. We have to be arguing for

these things in the private sphere as well. Having conversations and changing hearts and

minds is going to be just as important, if not more important than winning religious

liberty cases at the Supreme Court or even protecting religious liberty in our legislative

bodies. I'm really excited for you to listen to his insight. There was so much more I could

have talked to him about, but we were on a short time limit. Hopefully I'll be able to

get him back. He's going to give a lot of encouragement as well. I think that you'll

in this conversation feeling very optimistic and I will have a little outro at the end of

the episode as well. Without further ado, here is Ryan Anderson.

Mr. Anderson, thank you so much for joining us. If you could tell everyone who may not be

familiar, though I think a lot of people who listen are, who you are in what you do.

Sure. As of last week, I just became the new president of the Ethics and Public Policy

Center in Washington, DC. Prior to that, for nine years, I had been a senior research fellow

at the Heritage Foundation, focusing on life, marriage, religious liberty, gender identity,

political philosophy, writ large. More or less, I'm carrying that portfolio with me over

to EBPC. I'm going to be doing the same work just at a different organization and then with

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