Ep. 403: Grasslands and Grouse with Ted Koch

Cal of the Wild

MeatEater

Education, Sports, Wilderness

4.8 • 9.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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This week, Cal talks with Ted Koch, the CEO of the North American Grouse Partnership and a retired USFW endangered species biologist. Cal and Ted talk North Dakota sage grouse which was recently proclaimed "extinct" from it's native ND habitat. The state of America's grasslands, why grasslands matter, and how you can get involved.

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0:00.0	This is an IHeart podcast.
0:04.2	You've got the land, you've got the deer, but the season's closing in and your mind's racing with more questions than answers.
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0:18.8	Each episode, I'll be asking eight white-tail hunting pros,
0:21.5	a focused, thought-provoking question about hunting and land management.
0:26.1	How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?
0:30.5	Should you?
0:31.0	That's what the real question is.
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0:49.7	From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana Montana, this is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan Cali.
0:59.0	Here's Cal.
1:01.1	Welcome to another episode of Cal's Week in Review, or Cal of the Wild, as we're calling all things these days.
1:07.6	Good friend of mine, Ted Cook, with the North American Grouse partnership. Ted and I
1:13.7	have known each other for a long time. In fact, he's been on this podcast, but in a very
1:20.6	reserved capacity. And he generously gave the big spotlight that he deserves to a bunch of ranchers that are part of
1:33.5	the lesser prairie chicken landowner alliance. Ted is a retired endangered species biologist.
1:43.2	He is the current CEO of North American Grouse partnership, correct?
1:50.1	Yes.
1:50.8	Yes.
1:51.6	Yeah.
1:52.2	And we shot this out a little bit online the other week.
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