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And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN Audio, the Axfiles with your host, David Axelrod.

This marks the 400th episode of the Axfiles and the 400th episode demands a special guest.

And I have a very special guest today in Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Not only a historic leader of Congress is the first woman to serve as speaker, but one of the most durable leaders in congressional history.

And certainly a major player in the history of this epic that we're living right now.

I sat down with Speaker Pelosi earlier this week in the midst of the standoff over mail-in ballots and the U.S. Postal Service, but we talked about much more than that.

It's a great conversation. I hope you enjoy it. And let me just say for those of you who have listened to these conversations from the beginning, nearly five years of conversations, I thank you so much.

And those of you who have joined us along the way, I thank you as well.

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Madam Speaker, it is good to see you. Again, this is our 400th podcast. You're the first person who's been on this podcast three different times.

And they've been at three different periods in our history. This being perhaps the most volcanic of the mall. You're like the center.

You're the center of common in the middle of the storm here, but welcome. Thank you so much for being here.

My pleasure and an honor to be on for the third time, your 400th podcast.

Well, I can't think anyone I'd rather have today as we record this, you just came from meeting with your members to talk about this situation with the U.S. Postal Service.

Something that I think few would have imagined in the past becoming an issue on the doorstep of an election, but tell me what you've decided to do.

Well, again, thank you. That's just a salute the postal service. This postal service is in the Constitution and Congress's relationship with it is in the Constitution.

This is what you would have said some years ago, all American is apple pie, motherhood, baseball, the postal service.

Postal service is the most popular agency of government over 90% favorable of it.

The president has shredded the Constitution and now he wants to cut the sinews that have held our country together.

When we were colonies, we didn't have a postal service. When we did, we became a united country. And so they're going right after that.

It is interesting to see the response that members and Democrats and Republicans, House and Senate all over the country are receiving because the postal service means something to the American people.

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