Kirk Cameron steps into the Blurry Creatures 80s basement for a conversation that covers as much ground as his career has decades. Fresh off the viral firestorm of what he's calling "Hellgate," a father and son discussion on his show that turned into a two and a half hour scholarly roundtable on the nature of hell, Kirk walks us through the debate between eternal conscious torment and conditional immortality, why he thinks the church needs to stop shutting down hard questions, and how Augustine's Greek philosophy may have shaped what most Christians assume the Bible says about the afterlife. He also opens up about his journey from teenage atheist to believer at 17, right in the middle of filming one of the most iconic family sitcoms of all time.But this isn't just a theology episode. It's a ride through the 80s, Growing Pains behind-the-scenes stories, meeting William Shatner (the man he was literally named after), competing with Michael J. Fox through a cameraman, and the Ambisol-fueled first kiss with the woman who became his wife of 35 years. Kirk also shares a wild supernatural story from his son James on the Crow reservation in Montana, his niece's stunning connection to a twin lost in miscarriage, and why he believes the biggest problem in the church isn't bad theology. It's that people don't believe God actually loves them. From spiritual warfare to Richard Stabone, this one has it all. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices