This is Trend Following Radio, where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Coval.

Not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

So today on the show I have Mike Shell.

Mike is an investment manager at a Tennessee.

He is a trend following investment manager.

And Mike is a, he uses ETFs in his trend following trading.

So he's covering all the markets that a lot of the trend following traders that I've long

discussed are right in the middle of,

but he's using ETFs as his vehicle, which I think is a unique, unique proposition.

And we'll learn some more today about Mike's performance, his style, but I think it's going to be

a really interesting conversation because I tell you what, when you take a look at Mike's

blog, you're just going to see it's the stuff that it's the stuff that I love to put in my books he's got

on his blog and taking it in detailed ways that that I've not taken it so really interesting stuff

Mike I want to welcome you to the show today and I think we're going to have a good time how you

doing Mike I'm doing well so now just a good time. How you doing, Mike?

I'm doing well.

So now, just a little background too, and maybe you can expand to this some.

I do know we've, I think the first time we exchanged emails, I don't be 05, 06, it's been a long time.

We've never met.

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