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Deep Questions with Cal Newport

Ep. 396: Can I Learn To Love My Phone Again?

Deep Questions with Cal Newport

Cal Newport

Education, Self-improvement, Technology

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Remember how much we loved our iPhones when they first came out? Can we get back to that relationship with these devices? In this episode, Cal explores five pieces of advice for transforming your current phone back to something that’s less distracting, more useful, and fun once again – a goal he calls “2007 mode.” Below are the questions covered in today's episode (with their timestamps). Get your questions answered by Cal! Here’s the link: bit.ly/3U3sTvo Video from today’s episode: youtube.com/calnewportmedia DEEP DIVE: Can I learn to love my phone again? [3:31] INBOX:  A new study on brain fry [30:29] Use of phones in The Pitt [38:58] 17th Century scholar dealing with overload [42:05] WHAT CAL IS UP TO: What I’m trying [43:57] What Cal read [48:45] What Cal watched [49:44] Movies: Secret Agent Links: Buy Cal’s latest book, “Slow Productivity” at calnewport.com/slow Get a signed copy of Cal’s “Slow Productivity” at peoplesbooktakoma.com/event/cal-newport Cal’s monthly book directory: bramses.notion.site/059db2641def4a88988b4d2cee4657ba?youtube.com/watch?v=x7qPAY9JqE4youtube.com/watch?v=mJ4lsi2RtaIyoutube.com/watch?v=ENUO7dbZ-TYyoutube.com/watch?v=7jVb1lLniEwyoutube.com/watch?v=aC0JKAN5xVIhbr.org/2026/03/when-using-ai-leads-to-brain-fryinstagram.com/reel/DUxCG_BDvWX/?igsh=a3pyZXNlNTZvdDVp Thanks to our Sponsors:  butcherbox.com/deepvanta.com/deepquestions1password.com/deepshopify.com/deep Thanks to Jesse Miller for production, Jay Kerstens for the intro music, and Mark Miles for mastering. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Do you remember when the iPhone was first introduced?

0:06.8

It was an exciting moment.

0:09.3

Like, I want to play you a clip here from Steve Jobs' keynote address at the 2007 Mac World where he first introduced this device.

0:17.4

And I want you to listen to the enthusiasm of the assembled crowd.

0:23.1

Three things. A widescreen iPod with touch controls, a revolutionary mobile phone,

0:29.7

and a breakthrough internet communications device. An iPod, a phone, and an internet communicator, an iPod, a phone. These are not three separate devices this is one device and we are calling it iPhone wow those were the

1:10.7

days and then when we finally got our hands on those devices for the

1:15.1

first time, they were everything we had hoped they would be. They were slick and easy to use and

1:20.4

they were super useful and they were fun. But then, of course, over the years that followed,

1:25.6

our relationship with the phones began to sour. Now, a big part of this is

1:30.7

the attention economy platforms that realize there is money to be made in making us look at

1:36.7

these screens longer and longer. So they built their contrived addictive apps and soon we felt

1:42.7

obsessed with our phones. But also it's just clutter.

1:46.2

Over the years, we've added more and more different types of apps and services, some

1:51.2

useful, some that we've forgotten, some that become habits and some we wish we could get rid of.

1:55.2

And now this the whole screen when we turn on that device is a multicolored, garish distracting pile of exhaustion.

2:06.2

Wouldn't it be nice if we could go back to the way we looked at our phones in 2007?

2:11.0

Well, here's the thing.

2:12.4

I think we can.

2:14.7

In recent years, there's been a lot of interest in both the app space and the sort of

2:18.8

strategy space in figuring out how to transform the actual setup of your phone so that it is

2:25.7

much simpler and more fun, like the phones used to be when we first got them. And to do this

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